Tips – Engine Block

 

Block

Engine Thread Sizes 
Head Stud Lengths
Which Oil to Use – Petroleum vs Synthetic
Removal of a Brass Bush from an Oil Pump
Rear Main Oil Leaks 1
Rear Main Oil Leaks 2
Bearing Clearances
Head Gaskets
Head Stud Tensions
Blocked Oil Breather
Sump Removal – In Vehicle

 

Head Stud Lengths

For members who have assembled a Model A engine, one of the annoying problems is that
sometimes the new or old head studs are not quite long enough to get a full thread into the head nut and you don’t use the full strength of the nut.

I am not sure why this happens but I feel you should screw all head studs into your block until they are tight which seems to cause this shortage of thread protruding. I also put a thread sealant on the threads before installing.
I suggest you order the longer stud (part Number A-6066-C). The regular short stud is 3 15/32 of an inch long but A-6066-C is 3 ¾ inches long. You would probably need 14 of these. The stud between number 3 and 4 spark plugs will be longer if you use an ignition conduit clip.
The good book says the short head studs should protrude 2 ¾ of an inch above the actual blocks top surface. The ultimate aim is to have the stud thread protruding two threads above the nut when torqued!
I suggest you measure the height of one installed stud once tight in the block before you go to the trouble of ordering your engine parts. If it is shorter than 2 ¾ of an inch you should order the slightly longer studs mentioned above.

Alan Jeffree, MARC WA Newsletter April 2013
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Removal of a brass bush from a Model A Oil Pump

The first task is to remove one of the two bushes without damaging the body. You can’t drive the bush right through the pump as there is a step machined into the body where the bush sits.
There are two different size bushes use in Model A oil pumps. All of the pumps I have rebuilt have had a half inch bush. My instructions here apply to this size. The slightly larger bush used on some Model A oil pumps would just need a different size tap and bolt. A metric tap, and bolt could possibly be used rather than NF.

Removing a bush

Use a 9/16th NF (taper) tap to make a thread inside the brass bush, most of the total bush depth. Then screw a 9/16th NF bolt into to bush at least half way into the thread. Next use a longish rod and a hammer to drive the bush/bolt out. It usually drives out without too much effort. The second bush can be removed by repeating the above.

Hans Hurij, MARC WA Newsletter, April 2014
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Rear Mail Oil Leaks 1

Does your Model A leave oil on the driveway?  One of the biggest problems with the Model A Ford was, and still is, the persistent main bearing oil leak.  But there is a solution to the problem.  You can stop that oil leak by following all the steps outlined here; but do not skip any or you will be wasting your time.

A little background on the engine will prove informative and show why the problem with the rear main exists.  The flywheel in the Model A weighs several times that of flywheels in modern cars.  Thus dips, hard bumps, sudden stops and quick starts throw a tremendous
amount of weight of the rear main.  Sudden starts and stops tend to slam the flywheel backward and forward against the bearing thrusts. As they get looser, the harder the pounding.  This can continue until the vibration and pounding breaks up the babbitt and then the bearing is gone.  When this happens there is only one recourse and that is to have them repoured and align-bored.  A close inspection will determine the condition of the main bearing.

At this point it will be necessary to have the crankshaft “miked” (measured with a micrometer) to determine if it is flat – that is, out-of-round.  The center main will be worn more than the other two, normally.  This is also the first bearing to go under hard driving conditions.  The reason for this is the heat is greatest at the center of the engine and the babbitt tends to soften there first, plus the fact the center main has to help hold the pressure each time the engine fires for all cylinders.

Assuming that the babbitt bearings are sound and the crankshaft is within acceptable tolerance, we can turn our attention to tightening the main bearings.

  1. Make sure the aluminum seal in the block is tight and a seal between it and the block is made.  Permatex gasket cement will do the job fine.  The reason for this is, oil can “blow by” this seal if it is loose in the block.
  2. Place the crankshaft back in the block.  End play of the shaft should be between .002 and .004 of an inch.  The Ford Service Bulletin for February 1928 states .004 to .007 of an inch.  However this is more than actually required.  If more than this is encountered, a good re-babbitter can build up the old bearing thrusts at reasonable cost.  Remember also that too much end play in a crankshaft lets the shaft act as an oil pump as it moves back and forth.  Back pressure in the crankcase helps move the oil out but not in.
  3. Start with the rear main first.  Because this is our area of trouble we will be extra careful here as to its proper fit.  Place the two rear main bolts in the block.  Next place the shims (equal amount on each side) over the bolts.  Inspect carefully to see that the front and rear section of the shims touch the crankshaft simultaneously.  If the shim rocks, this will create a hole at the rear of the main, and you must file or cut out around the outer side of the bolt hole to allow the shim to move in and touch the shaft.  You will notice that at the front and back of the shim there is a bulb-type end.  This will match the “closed” section of the back and front part of the rear main.  This is designed to hold oil in the main and lubricate the shaft.  Under no condition should shims be used that have been modified to allow tightening of the rear main without removal of the cap.  This allows oil to seep out by the bolt into the flywheel housing.
  4. Inspect the rear bearing cap to make sure it has the large oil return tube without ball check.  Make sure all dirt and carbon is removed from the tube as well as the trough at the bottom of the bearing.  Do not alter the tube or bearing cap in any way.  Tighten the rear bearing to .001 clearance.  Plasti-gage (see note in Bearing Clearances) is available at most auto parts stores to indicate when the bearing is tight.  The crankshaft can be turned by hand at this setting by gripping the throws and turning.  Remember also, you can have a tight crank and still not have a good seal unless the bearing fits to .001 all the way around the shaft.  A simple home test is to use machinist’s blue dye.  Also keep in mind that if the engine is in poor condition and you are experiencing a lot of blow-by, the trough and open return tube tend to let pressure blow oil out the back main.  The only cure for this is complete rebuilding of the engine.  Incidentally, on a new rebuilt engine, you will get some blow-by until the rings have seated.  Some restorers have had good success with the moulded seal now being manufactured and available from most parts houses.  No modification is required of the engine.  The only thing to watch here is to be extremely careful to see that none of this seal mashes out between
    the block and the bearing cap.  Do not starve the rear main by closing off the oil line leading to the main.  This definitely is not recommended as oil to the mains is gravity fed and this is the reason the centre main goes first, because a big enough volume of oil cannot move through it.  The oil not only lubricates but cools the bearing.  There is only one hole for the oil to reach the rear mains.  There are no others leaving them.
  5. Now loosen the rear main nuts one full turn and tighten the centre main using the same procedure.  Of course on the front two mains you do not have to worry about the placement of shims against the crankshaft.
  6. Loosen the centre main nuts one full turn and tighten the front main.  After fitting up the front main, go back and retighten the other two key nuts and the job is complete.
  7. Now with all connecting rods installed, our next critical oil leak area is at the rear of the pan.  Normally the thick cork gasket across the back of the rear main is too long.  Simply cut it off where both ends touch the block until there is no bulge in the middle.  Install the pan using sealers.
  8. Another area of oil leak is at the front crank pulley.  If the pulley is loose on the shaft, two things can happen.  Oil will flow out between the shaft and the inner wall of the pulley.  The loose pulley will also bore out a new seal fast.  The original pulley was very snug on the crankshaft.  If you still have the original pulley and a groove is worn in it at the seal area, it would be better to have it built up with brass and then machined, than to buy a reproduction.  Now you can take that Model A out on the road and enjoy it
    more.  And after your trip you will be returning to the cleanest driveway in town.

Checklist

  1. Tight upper seal in block
  2. Good bearing surface on mains
  3. No end play in crankshaft over .007
  4. Shims moved over tight against crankshaft
  5. Clean trough and return tube
  6. Clean breather pipe
  7. Tight fitting front pulley

by Verle Smith
We have had so many questions on oil leakage that we
have decided to reprint this excellent article from
the March-April 1968 issue of The Restorer

From How to Restorer your Model A Volume 7, to
assist club members in need of the information.
Pat Bussard, MARC WA Newsletter, Nov 2010

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Rear Main Oil Leaks 2

MARC WA Newsletter, Feb 2016
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Bearing Clearances

This was a tip given to me by a long time Model A Club member and mechanic, Steve Read.

If you want to check the main or conrod bearings for clearance in a Model A, the following is an easy method once your motor is open.  These bearing should all have between one and one and a half thou clearance.

With a cap off, find a piece of “invoice” paper about the size of a five cent coin (the shape isn’t critical) and place this in the bottom of the wiped cap and replace the cap, bolting it up tight then try moving it by hand.  If the gap is OK the rod or crankshaft, whichever you are checking, should not move.

Invoice paper is about 2 thou in thickness.  You must not use anything thicker or this exercise is pointless!  Check with a micrometer if in doubt.  As an example, Reflex copy paper is 4 thou.

Word of warning! Do one bearing at a time to avoid any mixing up!  It is absolutely critical that the shims already in the cap must stay on the exact side you find them!  If they are separated, take care not to drop any.  I was given another valuable tip by my friend and sponsor, Ray Abbott, to mark each shim side with a different coloured texta pen.

If you find the 2 thou invoice paper doesn’t lock the bearing, to correct the clearances is another story.

Connecting rod showing the coloured texta to mark the shims.  The other side would be a different colour.  Mark the rod and the shims so you can replace them on the same/correct side.

Flexigauge/Plastigage.  Inside the packet is a very thin thread of special plastic which squashes when you place it under the cap.  The edge of the packet (that looks like a piano keyboard) is then used to compare the width of the squashed plastic to get a thou reading of the gap.  You don’t try turning the conrods when using this product.

Flexi Gauge does come in three colours to measure different size clearances.  I find green the one appropriate for Model A work.

You can’t use Plastigage to check the clearances in the main bearings with the motor in the vehicle. This is because when you remove one main bearing caps the crankshaft will sag downwards a little with gravity.  The Plastigage will squash as you push the crankshaft back up as you tighten the main bearing bolts and give you a false reading.  The use of 2 thou paper to check whether crank will turn by hands is okay! Steve Read and Ray Mahony (both qualified mechanics), have both contacted me with this additional information.

Alan Jeffree, MARC WA Newsletter, July 2014
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Head Gaskets

Replacement Model A head gaskets may be marked to indicate which side goes upwards. If not always install a new head gasket with the crimp side up. The reason for this is that over years of running, the gasket crimp will wear its way into the contacting surface. It is easier to remove the worn area in the head than to resurface the block.

John Moorehead, MARC WA Newsletter, April/May 2014 ?

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Head Stud Tensions

Members should check head stud tensions at least once a year on their Model A.  There is a
correct sequence to follow which is shown in many Model A books.  Basically you start in the centre of the head and alternate outwards in a snail trail to each outer end.

Remove one nut at a time, starting in the middle of the head, clean the thread and place a
coating of oil on the stud then tension that nut to 50 ft lbs (55 lbs if a high compression head).

Working alternately outwards following the correct sequence from the centre, do each nut one at a time.  When complete, recheck all nut tensions in the correct sequence.

John Watson, MARC WA Newsletter, March 2012
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Blocked Oil Breather

The perennial Model A Ford problem of the rear oil main leaking has been the subject of many articles.

If the major cause due to excessive clearance with the rear main bearing has been rectified then the following inspection may be of assistance.

The Model A engine is short on breathing air. This is why Ford increased the size of the breather (oil filler) pipe in 1932 on the B engine. Reduced breathing of the engine adds to the pressure in the bottom of the engine and hence aggravates the problem of oil leaks.

In 1928 the design of the filler pipe was changed so that the baffles pointed down instead of up to block oil mist in the crankcase. Also the baffles in the filler cap should not be flattened or distorted and hence add to the crankcase pressure. This is a common problem which is often overlooked.

Another test is to hold a plastic bag around the filler pipe with the cap removed. Run the engine at a fast idle and bag should flutter. If it does not and fills up with air there is excessive blow- by in the crankcase.  This can be caused by worn rings or valve guides.

Excessive pressure in the crankcase and restricted breathing will add to the problem of oil leaks.

John Moorehead, MARC WA Newsletter, May 2018
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Sump Removal – In Vehicle

If it is necessary to remove and refit the oil pan (sump) whilst the engine is in the vehicle and you are on your back under the vehicle the following simple tools will assist.

The first is an oil pump temporary retainer.  This device consists of 1/8th inch plug with a centre bolt.  After removing the plug or oil fitting in the block the retainer is screwed into the hole and the centre bolt tightened just sufficiently to hold the oil pump in position when the pan is removed.  Do not over tighten the securing bolt.  This oil pump retainer is stocked by Henry’s Ford T and A Parts and other USA suppliers. (part number
A6621R)

The second aid is a set of four guide pins.  Make these from four 5/16th inch 18 TPI (UNC) bolts.  Using a hacksaw cut four pins about 1 and 1/8 inch long with approximately 1/2 inch thread on one end.  Bevel the unthreaded end a little and cut a slot in the end for a screw driver.  When the sump is ready to replace, position the four guide bolts we have just mentioned into the block, two on each side to guide the sump and hold it steady in place.  The pan bolts can now be easily inserted.  Finally remove the four guide pins using a screw
driver and insert the last four pan bolts.

Don’t forget to then remove the oil pump retainer and refit the original plug or pressure gauge fittings.

John Moorehead, MARC WA Newsletter, Sept 2013

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